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Jul 18, 2011 6:00am EDT
to beat president obama. a look at the war in afghanistan. now the longest war. how do we get out? does obama's policy differ from president bush's and what is the effect for generations to come? joe and mika and willie join in the conversation later this hour. we begin with the debt crisis. they are trying to make a deal on the deficit. houses of congress are rolling out separate compromises to safe off a default. harry reid is meeting with mitch mcconnell to craft a solution to appeal to both parties. according to reports, this would do the following. it would allow the debt ceiling to be raised three times for a total of $2.5 trillion. in exchange, some $1.5 trillion in spending cuts would be enacted. the plan would be established to identify new deficit cuts. proposal, already, getting a lukewarm response from the fellow republicans. among them, the freshman snar mark arubio and tom coburn. take a listen. >> it gives the president the ability to raise the debt limit. the debt limit isn't the problem. the problem is the debt. the plan, as outlined to me isn't a credible solution. >>
MSNBC
Jul 13, 2011 1:00pm EDT
and ultimately afghanistan. this is the first attack in three years. we saw what happened last time. there was restraint by the indians. but indian diplomats tell me with the next attack they may not be restrained if they find out that it did emanate from pakistan. >> that's right. they have been cautious to point blame until they have more facts. the fact that it was simultaneous attacks. this dazy chain operation of the facts three at a time, and the fact that this was done in mumbai the financial capital of india. that really has the attacks from three years ago in november of 2008. >> these other pakistani groups. pakistani groups that have been linked to pakistan's government. they're not just separate terror groups. they are groups that are closely connected with elements inside pack tan ji intelligence. we should point out we don't know. early reports can be deceiving. there's always a lot of suspicion because there is paranoia in islamabad and mumbai and new dele. american officials have long complained that pakistan doesn't focus enough on its terror groups and focuses too
MSNBC
Jul 10, 2011 10:00am EDT
cheney and koe cokie roberts as well. >>> defense secretary leon panetta visits afghanistan. the paper reports a possible halt of $800 million in assistance of equipment. this could have a dramatic effect on u.s. troops in afghanistan. this report out of the "new york times" says the aid could resume if pakistan takes tougher action against the taliban as well as al qaeda. meanwhile, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan as i was mentioning. panetta is meeting with american military leaders as well as afghan officials. atia abawi is in kabul, afghanistan. he's making strong remarks when it comes to al qaeda and how he wants to continue stamping them out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. that's absolutely right. on his flight from d.c. to kabul he did speak to reporter on the plane that he was on about al qaeda and said that the strategic defeat of al qaeda was within reach, pointing to the death of osama bin laden, pointing to the information that we were able to retrieve from his compound, including the names of key leaders that they'd like to go after. and he says that t
MSNBC
Jul 12, 2011 9:00pm EDT
to afghanistan as a member of a ranger helicopter assault team. on may 26th, 2008, sergeant petry and his unit was in afghanistan, part of the rugged mountainous region near the border with pakistan that's perfect for hiding out in. sergeant petry's unit was assigned to make a risky daylight raid on a compound why u.s. intelligence said a top al qaeda commander was hiding. the moment the helicopter landed they came under fire. within minutes as they moved into a court yard in the compound a machine gun round went through both of his legs. he was bleedly badly. he nevertheless aided another wounded soldier leaving him to take cover behind a chicken coop in the courtyard. he did this with severe injuries to both of his legs. sergeant petry launched a grenade in the direction of the enemy fighters, who were shooting at the rangers. that provided enough cover for a third ranger to join them behind the chicken coop to evaluate the wounds. an enemy grenade exploded in the courtyard. it further hurt the ranger that he was helping and the third ranger. a second grenade thrown by the energy fighters la
MSNBC
Jul 14, 2011 9:00pm EDT
on jobs in baghdad, kabul, kandahar, in other parts of the iraq and afghanistan. and the irony of course is that we are being told that we are in this terrible crisis, when the republicans brought out a military bill that increased the military by $17 billion, gives more money to iraq and afghanistan, and i have to say i am very nervous that the president might agree to keep troops in iraq next year, which is longer than george bush wanted to keep them there. so, yeah, i think we can in the short-term save a lot of money by bringing the troops home with no negative job impact. but to get back to your question, what mr. bernanke said correctly is, yes, over the long-term, you should have a plan for deficit reduction from both higher taxes in my judgment and spending cuts. but in the short-term, if you were to do that, you would slow down the recovery. and that's why it's a timing issue. >> in terms of what you just said there about defense cuts, and what might be possible in this congress, i feel like the things that i have heard from republicans that seem like they have sort of silver li
MSNBC
Jul 13, 2011 5:30am EDT
karzai's brother rocking the world of afghanistan. joining us now from kabul, nbc's atia aboui. how did this happen in the fist place? we're getting new details, i know, about how exactly he was assassinated. >> good morning, willie. also referred to as awk was the younger half brother of president hamid karzai. he was shot and killed in his home yesterday in kandahar. a trusted security guard and confidant went into the home using that trust, lured awk out of a meeting, sent him into another room where they were alone the sign papers. as awk was signing those papers, that's when mohammed shot him. it's unclear if he shot hit twice in the head or three times in various parts of his body. right now what's confusing everyone is where did mohammed shoot karzai? what we understand is they're from the same klan, that they're, in fact, distant relatives. the taliban claimed responsibility saying they've worked with sadar mohammed for some time now. but many believe it could be because of a tribal feud which confuses everyone when it comes to afghanistan, because we have to remember there's mo
MSNBC
Jul 18, 2011 5:30am EDT
to the senate. >>> general david petraeus officially handing over command of coalition forces in afghanistan. that happens today. general john allen is taking over for petraeus as he moves over to take over cia allen says he plans to maintain current campaign. nato forces are beginning an initial handover of military enforcement to afghan troops, specifically in a central province. there are currently more than 150,000 forces in afghanistan, including 100,000 american soldiers. it comes as taliban says it killed a key adviser to president hamid karzai as well as a member of parliament in kabul this weekend. this just one week after karzai's half brother was gunned down by a member of his own security team. the taliban also took responsibility for that assassination. nato also says an explosion killed three service members in eastern afghanistan. this morning. >>> still ahead today on "way too early," if you still have a knot in your stomach from yesterday's world cup finals match between u.s. and japan, you're certainly not the only one. we'll show you the full heart-breaking highlights if y
MSNBC
Jul 21, 2011 6:00am EDT
of afghanistan and iraq. >> the republicans we have on the show say they are open to the loophole cuts. are they? >> tom coburn is. he provides a lot of cover. >> i was wondering what mike was quoting. how many pages can you get read in the seventh inning stretch? >> it's in between innings. it's the entire game. >> the tough thing for president obama, he's going to say he will extend the deadline, if it looks like a deal is coming together. this, to me, is the difficult part. if all he had to deal with was the senate, i have no doubt in the next week you would have a deal that would work. the house is difficult. he's going to need to know from nancy pelosi and john boehner the votes are in place. today, not even close to that. >> you will lose 100, maybe 120 republicans right out. if you get most of the democratic caucus and boehner pulls in 100 republicans, it gets done. it's up to the democrats. i think boehner can get 100 republicans. can pelosi get 120 democrats? >> right. okay. we are going to get to bill karins on the heat in a minute. before we go, new developments in the hacking scandal
MSNBC
Jul 4, 2011 6:00am EDT
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Jul 27, 2011 6:00am EDT
on the heels of the most absurd unfunded wars in iraq and afghanistan and unfunded trillion dollar medicare and bills and tax cuts for the wealt wealthy. i, myself, voted for all of this. back to my original point. >> welcome back to "morning joe". the medicare plan was a $7 trillion plan. most republicans have been watching. let's take a look now at the morning papers. the san francisco chronicle and a virtual fallout if congress fails to raise the contract. they took out $5.4 billion in loans, covering the bills in case money stops flowing in from washington. new york times under pressure from democratic colleagues, seven term representative, david wu said he would resign from congress following accusations of inappropriate sexual encounters last year. she was much, much younger. before the allegations, he was politically vulnerable. two others were going to challenge him. they have been talking about this going back to college, possible rape charges from his time in stanford. drivers in l.a. may regret paying ticket violations from traffic cameras. they admitted paying the fines is volun
MSNBC
Jul 24, 2011 2:00pm EDT
party support and served as a captain in the air force, including tours in afghanistan and iraq. congressman, welcome very much. >> thanks. >> happy to have you. and welcome to everyone. doris, sometimes satire can be the most damning in terms of summing up where we are. "the onion" newspaper has this headline this week -- "congress continues debate over whether or not nation should be economically ruined." if the question is whether washington is broken, make the case that the answer is yes. >> i think there's no question it's broken. you know, our country was created on the principle of compromise. think about it. the states versus the federal government, senate versus house, north versus south. and i remember once, one of the old framers was asked, what is the three principles of this new government you've created? well, the first is compromise, the second is compromise, the third is compromise. something's happened where compromise has become a terrible word in washington. it's partly because the parties have become more ideologically separated. henry clay was the great comp
MSNBC
Jul 6, 2011 8:00pm EDT
notes to families who succumb to suicide in iraq and afghanistan. the official note from the president reads this decision was made after a difficult and exhaustive review of the former policy, and i did not make it lightly. this issue is emotional, painful, and complicated, but these americans served bravely. they didn't die because they were weak, and the fact they didn't get the help they needed must change. since the beginning of the wars in iraq and afghanistan, more than 1800 members of the military have committed suicide during active duty. even more staggering, more active duty troops have died in the last two years from suicide than in combat. now the president will be writing letters to the families of the service members. here's hoping he has to write very, very few. greg keesling tol us his wife cried for the first time in two years. we're going to heal, he said. we're going to heal. that's
MSNBC
Jul 14, 2011 12:00am EDT
are slightly more in favor of the war in afghanistan than the rest of republicans. they've been only barely more likely than republican voters in general to see federal government debt as a serious threat to the country. on this show last night, wayne slater, who has been covering the potential presidential candidacy of rick perry as well as the politicking in iowa explained the republican base right now that he's seeing as a seasoned political reporter as tevangelical. i think that's much closer than the -- closer to the truth than common wisdom has been. however, this year, however much that drives the pundit class to distraction about how different politics will be this year, really what republicans are dealing with is a traditional conservative base this year that is extra obsessed with abortion. there is nothing new under the sun. maybe the universe is trying to remind us of that by having newt gingrich run again. when you look at the evidence, seems like an upsurge of the faction the republican party has harbored for a generation now and ignoring the religious and theocratic impulses
MSNBC
Jul 22, 2011 1:00pm EDT
in iraq and afghanistan. what they need to look at specifically is with the promise of doing tax reform in the fall through december what is the guaranteed tax reform gets done and there is new revenue. you eluded to it. republicans say if democrats don't keep up their end of the bargain we get rid of president obama's individual mandate. democrats say we get rid of the bush tax kults 250 or above. they're working on the trigger mechanism. it's going to take many differentists and turns. it's looking like wednesday is the closest thing we've heard all along in this process that a firm deadline needed to work out the compromise. >> luke, some exclosive issues in that mix. this is going to be a really interesting negotiation to follow. >> a long way to go, andrea. there's still a long way to go. next week's the real crunch time. we'll have a fun weekend. >> thank you, luke up up on the hill for us. senator kent conrad chairs the budget committee and is a member of the gang of six and joins me now senator, your colleagues have been exploding over the secrecy of this. you can say nothing is
MSNBC
Jul 12, 2011 6:00am EDT
petteri will be receiving the medal of honor because he had a gun to his head in afghanistan. he was asked to do something for his country, let's ask these people in washington to do something for their country. just get together and get something done. >> you know, there is huge news out of afghanistan this morning that we're going to get to as well as rupert murdoch and his media empire. what's going on with that. >> this is extending, by the way, to "the times" of london? >> yes, the big story. >> the other players, this is earth shattering. i thought the big thing -- i thought it was about one tabloid. whew. this is so serious. >>> ahead this morning, we're going to bring in the ranking member of the budget committee, congressman chris van hollen. and oil tycoon t. boone pickens will be here. eugene robinson. >> by the way, on that story, i mean, they're not tapping the phones of the british prime minister, but they're -- they're trying to get his records -- >> may be an institution that has rot on the the core. it is a big problem. >> medical records. >> bank accounts. >> after the br
MSNBC
Jul 11, 2011 5:00pm EDT
cuts causing a major part of our long term debts and our deficits. two wars in iraq and afghanistan that if we were to draw down earlier for example, in afghanistan would deal with long-term debt issues. so let's put those things on the table. corporate loopholes, instead of just turning to the piggy bank of social security and medicare. >> what about medicaid? would you cut that? >> medicaid, i mean, the challenge we have from medicaid is we want to make sure that we don't shift, simply shift the burden on to our states, which really can't afford that right now. again, the conversations about these entitlement programs while i find might be, you know, important for us to engage in, we're conflating apples an oranges when it comes to, one, listing our debt ceiling and dealing with major causal factors for our long-term debt. >> i'm asking about all these possible cuts, which you've rejected, because the cost of government right now is up to about 25% of our economy right now. and the revenues are about at 16%. seems to me to get 0 to some quality, raise revenues to 2022 and bring do
MSNBC
Jul 20, 2011 10:00am EDT
together and serve together in afghanistan is actually a better situation than if one of you had stayed back because you would live difficult lives and separate lives? >> i didn't hear the question. >> so what i'm asking, sergeant -- >> i'm sorry, what was the question? >> no problem. i know there's a delay here. the fact that you guys get to work together and spend time together, it sounds like it's working out quite well compared to many of those who serve with you where one of them is in the united states. >> yes, it's great having him out here. i know most of us -- well, almost everybody has to leave their loved ones behind, but it's great to see him every day here and be able to talk to him as much as we do. >> sergeant and corporal, thank you very much for what you do there. thank you for your time today and sharing with us how you've made it work serving together there in afghanistan, which is so important to all of us here in the united states. thank you again for your time. >>> and yet another twitter milestone for justin bieber and his tweet of the day. bieber saying 10,000 tw
MSNBC
Jul 21, 2011 5:00pm EDT
by u.s. officials in afghanistan he was allowed close enough to kill seven cia agents? >>> finally, let me finish with a second look at most memorable moment of the week when rupert murdoch's wife wendi supposedly saved him from a pie throwing comedian. call me skeptical but i'm calling it piegate. >>> we start with deal or no deal. the "new york times" reported this afternoon, the obama administration has informed democratic congressional leaders that president obama and speaker boehner were about to close in on a major deal that would enact substantial spending cuts and seek future revenues through -- the administration on wednesday night notified top members of congress that an agreemd between the president and mr. boehner could be imminent. but white house spokesman jay carney was quick to knock down the story. let's listen. >> the breaking news reports you all have probably received is incorrect. there is no deal. we are not close to a deal. we are obviously -- the president is in discussions with all the leaders of congress, as well as other members, and exploring the possibility
MSNBC
Jul 11, 2011 6:00am EDT
behind, the war in iraq, some said don't try to build a nation in afghanistan. stop spending all this money. when the democrats came in in 2009, they increased every department 10%. if it's 25% the feds are taking and the 12 to 15 the state and local are taking. that's why they are all cutting back. >> pat, pat, pat -- >> you will drive this economy deeper into recession if you put $1 trillion in taxes on it. >> pat, i don't disagree with cutting spending. i'm trying to tell you 70% of how we got into this problem was spending and 30% was cutting spending that we wouldn't afford. it happens to be 70% spending reductions. 30% tax increase. >> this is one place i agree with krugman. mike barnicle should be in this. jobs are the thing. we have to create jobs. how does hammering business with $1 trillion in tax increases when government is going down in size, they created the only jobs. john heilemann. >> just as point of fact -- was about letting part of the bush tax cuts expire after 2012. that's where the revenue is going to come. no tax increase in 2011 or 2012. it was raising ta
MSNBC
Jul 11, 2011 10:00pm EDT
they are. i know a way to cut $2 trillion out of the deficit, end the wars in afghanistan, and iraq, and libya, those wars cost us $157 billion last year, the cost is going up, not down. if you want to say $2 trillion, how about peace? give that a try? >> social security, a bigger deal, it seems like. harry reed was on "meet the press" said we didn't have a problem. the president now wants to put it on the table. the president acknowledged it is not part of the deficit problem, that is starting to sink with in americas. >> social security is not the source of our deficit problems. social security if it is part of a package, would be an issue of how do we make sure social security extends its life and is strengthened. >> so, strengthened means cuts, get the code language out here. any time you want to strengthen something, you are going ask consumers, who pay into the program, have to do more for the two top percent. if it is not the the source of the problem, why address it now? >> washington sdwided the meanies and weanies that is the two-party system. the meanies want to take soci
MSNBC
Jul 8, 2011 12:00am EDT
, there's a pattern in that we have reached a tipping point. we saw it with afghanistan. and iraq in terms of the timetable. when are we getting out. we saw it in the compromises on the bush tax cuts. we have seen this pattern in which democrats are put in the position to having to be the adults in the conversation, and trying to hold things together, and now we are back at that point. if you look at that pattern of concession and then compromise to the middle, and the democrats having to bear the burden politically for those decisions, it might be a trial balloon, but there is a pattern that indicates that social security and medicare are on the table. and that is why we reacted the way we did. this shouldn't be on the table. we have reached a no mass point here. that democrats should never support this. we have to be solid and independent, regardless of what those negotiations with the administration produce. >> in terms of what you described there as bearing the political burden here, that is one of the strategic questions that i have. and this may be clearer to you from washington than
MSNBC
Jul 11, 2011 8:00pm EDT
of deceased members of the armed forces in the united kingdom who were killed in afghanistan and iraq. >> what were they hoping to find in hacking those calls? >> obviously, they were looking for information about families, they were looking for details about millie, did she disappear, was she with a boyfriend somewhere, so they had access. >> the number of people that had to be involved in this exercise has to be big. >> no. 2007, the managing director of "news of the world," now the director of "the wall street journal" went before a committee and said there was one rogue reporter at "news of the world." it's now emerged it was rife throughout the paper that virtually everybody involved was hacking someone's phone for stories, and that's why rupert murdoch took the decision at the weekend to close that newspaper for good. that's a newspaper that's existed for 168 years. no more. >> and the law on this in britain? >> oh, it's a criminal offense. but what's worse is it's now emerged that they had fiscal financial relationships with serving police officers, so, for example, one individual, a me
MSNBC
Jul 12, 2011 11:00am EDT
roberts. afghanistan's president hamid karzai's half brother was assassinated by one of his own guards. poli are seaing he was shot in the head at point-blank range inside his home in kandahar earlier this morning. the shooter was also killed. the taliban taking credit for this murder, claiming they hired the man who did it. u.s. officials believe ahmad wali karzai had ties with the drug cartel in the country. >>> wikileaks founder is in court to be extradited back. the court appearance follows a lavish birthday party he threw for himself over the weekend. >>> the great recession devastated minorities in this country, possibly erasing decades of progress made by the middle class. the recession knocked the average net worth of white house soelds from $137,000 to $97,000, a 24% drop. among black families, average net worth fell from $13,000 to just $2,000. that means black families saw their income plunge 83% from the recession. joining me in our sound-off segment is nbc contributor melissa harris perry, professor of political science at tulane as well as college of the nation. i think i
MSNBC
Jul 13, 2011 1:00am EDT
with the war in afghanistan, not to bring jobs back to the american economy, but to cause the president of the united states not to be re-elected, any proposal from somebody in that mode is something that's going to take a little close scrutiny before you sign onto it. >> mcconnell has lost credibility with you? >> it's a question of what his priorities are, and if that's his priority, then thing that is he proposes need close scrutiny. i don't want to kick the idea to the curb. it could be a solution to this, but we need to see the details. >> congresswoman edwards, $4 trillion is a heck of a lot of money. are you one of the 77 that signed off to this letter that keith ellisson told me about today? >> i have. my principle concern is about cuts to medicare and social security. i made that very clear and sent a letter last week to the president telling him that what i want to be clear about is we don't do anything that con strains the president's hands. i'm looking forward to hear from him about his response to the mcconnell proposal. what i will say is republicans are all over the map.
MSNBC
Jul 14, 2011 10:00am EDT
to save $2 trillion over the next ten years there's a simple way to do it, end the wars in afghanistan and iraq and now libya. we spent $157 billion on that last year. >> if that's your scale where do you put the president? >> the president can speak for himself. i'm not the president's press secretary, but i will tell you this, i would not vote to cut social security. i would not vote to cut medicare and i think the democrats at least should pledge to do the same. i'd like to see the democrats stand up and say -- >> if you were in congress and the president's ear and the caucus and you're talking to the leadership, to nancy pelosi, what would you tell them? >> i would tell them to concentrate on what matters in the lives of americans. we have 22 million americans who can't find full time work. we have 50 million americans who can't see a doctor when they're sick. we have about 30 million american families who owe more on their mortgage than the value of their home. they owe more than they own. let's concentrate on those problems and not obsess over what the budget deficit might or mig
MSNBC
Jul 18, 2011 9:00pm EDT
and afghanistan and other places outside the united states. we've jumped in on that and asked for what procedures they are using to make sure they are going to be in compliance with the law, and starting this thursday, we get to start putting our cops on the beat. we're here for military families, but, you know, that's just a microcosm of what's happening in all of america. that's what this agency is for. >> hearing you talk about that with such passion, and i know this is what you've been doing for all this time, i have to ask you if you wish you had been appointed by the president to be running the agency, and if now you are leaving washington, heading home to washington, if you feel you've developed a washington allergy or if you'd like to get back in there? >> let me start with the first part, we would not have a consumer agency if not for president obama. two years ago, right about now, he looked out and said the consumer agency, that's what i want to put in financial regulatory reform. over the next year while everybody fought back and forth over the regular reform bill, there were a lot of
MSNBC
Jul 19, 2011 3:00pm EDT
involved murdered teenagers and the children of families who lost loved ones in afghanistan and iraq. but for the moment, thank you very much indeed, vicky ward. >> thank you, marlin. >>ly stick around here in london to talk to dylan ratigan as ezra picks things up at the headquarters in new york. stay with us. specialists, lots of doctors, lots of advice... and my hands were full. i couldn't sort through it all. with unitedhealthcare, it's different. we have access to great specialists, and our pediatrician gets all the information. everyone works as a team. and i only need to talk to one person about her care. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with a
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Jul 20, 2011 6:00pm EDT
continue to spend tens and tens of billions of dollars in iraq and afghanistan, over a hundred million a year, pour be money into corruption that doesn't help. they can't find 150 or 200 million to regulate derivative. today, this afternoon, a few hours ago, they voted in committee and i think people will be astonished by this. to reduce the legal liability we try to put on the rating agencies. the rating agents are a big part of this problem. paid by the people who are issuing the security and they gave me outlandishing favorable ratings that turn out to be accurate. we said, if you put a rating into a perspective, if i said to you, sharpton, can you guy this and here is what moody's or standard & poor's said about that, they say no -- >> they just voted to repeal that so you can't vote for having misinformation on that? >> it would be much harder. you have to show, al, that they were knowingly reckless. the fact that they were dead wrong, sloppy, careless and you put your money in and bought something worthless, that won't let you do it. you have to -- go through all kinds of directi
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Jul 22, 2011 12:00am EDT
in afghanistan, that's not going to coerce me into voting for it. on the other hand, i do think that some of the few remaining serious republicans understand that they will get blamed for this. so i think there is some pressure to do that. one other point i want to mention, rachel, which deeply angers me, these are people, the tea party people, who came to be the constitutionalists, they are in the process of launching the most fundamental assault on the american constitution, fundamental principle we have ever seen, and that was majority rule. the great breakthrough in the 18th century was self governance. and if you read the constitution, the assumption is majority rule in congress. it's majority rule in the states. in no part of the u.s. constitution are you required to get more than a simple majority of both houses to do anything. there's a 2/3 required for treaty only in the senate. that was special with foreign powers. there's a 2/3 requirement to amend the constitution or to impeach someone. but for legislation everywhere in the constitution all you need is a majority, and these pe
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Jul 22, 2011 3:00pm EDT
at the facts, they don't appear to have a vast number of military involved in the operations in afghanistan or iraq. there doesn't appear to be a particular reason for why that nation should be targeted. >> well, norway does have special forces operating around kabul, has had for a long time, and has declined to remove them. and inspite of, you know, multiple warnings from zawahiri and others, and if you look at the internet buzz on the gjihad websites that is why norway would be attacked, and another possibility is that there was a norwegian magazine a few years ago that republished the danish cartoons that muslims found offensive, and that was mentioned today, even though the norwegian government apologized for that publication. there was a thwarted attack last year that al qaeda central was believed to be responsible for. so it is not as if this is something that has been pristine in terms of threats. this is the country that has seen a number of threats, and i think that also having president obama make that statement publicly today indicates that the u.s. government at least believes i
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Jul 5, 2011 6:00am EDT
to the war in afghanistan. he's given on taxes. he mised a huge opportunity in my opinion there. why can't the republicans just open their minds a little bit, give a little bit. go back on a commitment to make something happen. >> obama is wrong. >> he's not wrong. >> he had a $780 billion stimulus. the $700 billion tarp, three deficits for $1.5 trillion. we have the fete pumping in $600 billion. it hasn't worked. and so it hasn't -- if it hasn't worked, cohen calls this a cult. the cult won 63 seats. six months ago. what happened to his party. >> thankfully we didn't listen to republicans on the carr industry without the investment the american people made, we would have lost gm, chrysler, ford, and lost our ability on the global stage too. thank god we ignored the republicans when it came to saving the financial system without it. it was the right thing to do for them to pay them back. but what i want to know, ray torically, is where was the team party when bush ran the debt up. they were absent. this isn't as much political as it is substance. i don't doubt they have considerable repu
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Jul 13, 2011 6:00am EDT
of honor recipient. >> willie, so many guys that have been in that situation, iraq and afghanistan and you are involved in helping some of them. we met some of them a couple weeks back. >> yes, a group called operation men. guys severely burned in ied explosions. the thing that strikes you with them and staff sergeant petry, they want to go back. >> they all want to go back. >> they want to get back and be with their brothers. sergeant petry eight deployments. he went back after losing his hand. he went back to fight. >> we have been talking, not just this morning but days on end about what's going on in washington with the debt ceiling. sergeant petry just said something about the men and women he served with having their bodies stole from them. it's an exact quote. they have something else stolen from them. it's full recovery. it's assistance for traumatic brain injuries down the road for decades to come. we have to pay for these things. >> we do. >> they better bear down in washington, 10% as much as sergeant petry, bear down. >> it's going to be a long, long haul for the young men and
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Jul 25, 2011 6:00am EDT
of the wars in afghanistan and pakistan. >> still not getting serious. >> i went away from fuzzy. >> is that like jerry at trick math? >> yes. >> are you surprised they don't have a deal today? i actually really -- i mean, i really thought -- >> i would be shocked if they don't have a deal in the next two or three days. again, republican freshmen may have a big ideology difference with barack obama and his world view, and the divide is no greater than ronald reagan's was with tip o'neal in 1983 when they sat down, and they did a kneel. yes, you differ with barack obama and the democrats, but -- >> usually you are good at seeing somebody's angle. like you know what their angle was. what is the angle here? i don't get it. >> these republicans believe this is their only opportunity -- >> are they so stuck to the contract with the tea party they cannot think outside the box for the good of the country? seriously? >> can i finish? you asked a question and i need to finish. they understand one thing. >> what do they understand? >> they are dead right about this. this is their best chan
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Jul 6, 2011 7:00pm EDT
are not helpful to them. we have an iraq war, which is still there, an afghanistan war that has been beefed up, what's good tweeter, twitter, tweeting. >> not just that, chris, but a lot of the appeal about president obama in 2008 was he was new and fresh and gave a chance to americans to write history. that happened. how do you make history twice, the answer is you don't. he has to find a way to fire up the base once again. ultimately, his message if the economy doesn't improve is the other guys will make it worse. look at their policies and views. >> john, you're key. i want to end it with that note. it's brilliant. it's about the next four years, it's not the blame game. who do you have confidence in to lead the country out of the situation we are now. thank you so much jonathan and alex wagner for tutoring me rather crudely. let me finish with -- we're going to have a birthday tribute to nancy reagan for the reasons she was a moderating force on that man next to her. you're watching "hardball." that's good, right? good job. years ago, my mother taught me. and over the years, i've taught my
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Jul 7, 2011 12:00pm EDT
victims, that sort of thing. the relatives of soldiers slain in iraq and afghanistan also allegedly hacked. that's the thing about this story. it's one thing to say that celebrities and athletes and politicians' numbers were hacked. they are not particularly sympathetic figures for the general public. but when you talk about members of the general public, just people, just victims, people grieving over the recent knowledge that a loved one has been killed, that's something that everybody on all sides of the aisle have called appalling and deplorable and unacceptable. the statement by james murdoch today, i just had a chance to read it through. it's a long, perhaps 1500 word statement. in it, he says the good things that the "news of the world" does, this is the largest english language circulation paper in the world, the seventh biggest in terms of circulation newspaper in the world, but he says the good things that the paper does have been sullied by behavior that was wrong. indeed, he writes in recent allegations are true, that behavior was inhuman and has no place in our company. the "n
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Jul 7, 2011 10:00pm EDT
of the afghanistan war, we're against what congress voted for, americans voted for it and we have to pay our bills. >> congressional members said they met with the president a month ago and they asked him, are you going to throw us under the bus? and they're telling me tonight they were thrown under the bus. do you feel that way? >> you know what, what i'm hoping is this. when the president is talking about medicare and social security, it's about making medicare and social security strong, survivable and sustainable. and when president reagan and speaker o'neal, democrat and republican, joined hands on social security, it was about making it stronger. it wasn't about raiding social security to cover tax cuts for the rich. so that's the real question. there is enormous anxiety. >> why are we even talking about this when you've got 80% of the american people who don't want to go down this road? >> there are two interpretations. number one, we shouldn't be doing it, because medicare should be discussed on its own terms. we have to bring down the cost of health care and that's important not only for
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Jul 9, 2011 8:00am EDT
found out that his son, james, who died in afghanistan in 2006 may have had not only his cell phone tapped into by the "news of the world" but also his e-mail. >> they hacked into a dead soldier. it's despicable. what else can you say? what on earth did they think they were going to find? >> reporter: in words of the prime minister, people trust the police to protect them. politicians to represent them. and press to inform them. and, he says, the british public has been failed by all three. >> we're now hearing that ru period of time murdock will fly into the u.k. tomorrow as this scandal threatens to spread. to spread to the united states where one of his most senior executives now runs dow jones in new york, but used to run the operation here, and possibly to spread to other newspapers. it is no exaggeration to say that this scandal threatens british tabloid journalism as we know it. >> okay. kier simmons, lots on the line here. thank you very much, from london. >>> independence day for the youngest nation in the world. tens of thousands of people turned out to celebrate south sud
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Jul 11, 2011 4:00pm EDT
, a tremendous concern, he says. meantime in afghanistan over the weekend, the defense secretary claiming u.s. forces are with reach of breaking al qaeda. we're almost there. granted, there's only about two dozen of them, but we're almost ready to break them. and as we learned al qaeda, of course, not real threat. a new book raises questions about the methods we use to fight the war on terror in general. the author "glen carl, a former spy at the cia. the book called "the interrogator" an education. portions of the book redactsed by the central intelligence agency and mr. carl, it's a pleasure to meet you electronically. why did you write this book and what are you loping to achieve? >> thank you very much. i wrote it for two reasons. patriotic and personal ones. i was proud to serve my country for my career for 23 years. i think we're all proud of our country and we want our country to live up to the ideals that we believe it embodies and i took an oath to serve. i also am one of only ones firsthand experience in the interrogation policies used since 9/11 and wrote it for personal reasons,
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Jul 12, 2011 12:00pm EDT
of honor from president obama. he's the second living recipient from the wars in iraq and afghanistan. he lost his happened when he threw a grenade away from two fellow soldiers during a daylight raid in 2008. brian williams has an exclusive interview with petry tonight on nbc nightly news. here's a preview for you. >> what would you like civilians -- civilians in this country who don't serve in the military a lot of them have it pretty good. what would you like them to know about their modern military? >> i had something that i come up with. i haven't heard it before. >> we'll give you credit anyway. >> i look at all the military and all the fallen heroes that gave the ultimate sacrifice and i just want the public to know that hey, take your time, honor those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, but embrace the living ones that are still serving today. they really need your support and it's amazing what they can do with that. >> be sure to tune in right here to msnbc at 2:15 eastern for special coverage of the medal of honor ceremony. about two hours for you. >>> a new effort in washing
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Jul 12, 2011 7:00pm EDT
to army sergeant leroy petrie. he lost his hand while throwing away an enemy grenade in afghanistan, saving two other rangers. >>> mississippi's attorney general is suing the administrator of the spoil fund, accusing him of denying claims. >>> cindy anthony will not face perjury charges. >>> meanwhile, a professional team in texas is suing casey anthony for more than $100,000 for the money it spent. >>> and scherrwood schwartz died in hollywood today. >>> welcome back to "hardball." with the "news of the world," the scandal went to the top today. rupert murdoch, his son james and top editor rebekah brooks all summoned to appear next week before a british parliamentary committee. last night former prime minister gordon brown announced "news of the world" hacked his records. he also described his reaction to the 2006 "sun" newspaper report that revealed his son had had cystic fibrosis. >> in tears. your son is now going to be broadcast across the media sarah and i were incredibly upset about it. we were thinking about his long-term future. we're thinking about our family. >>> joining
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Jul 18, 2011 9:00am EDT
international service members were killed in a bombing this morning in eastern afghanistan according to nato officials. this as general david petraeus officially hands over the command of the u.s. mission there to general john allen today. hospital officials are denying a weekend report that ousted egyptian president hosni mubarak had a major stroke and was in a coma. according to egyptian state news, doctors say mubarak is in stable condition, ahead of his august trial date. >>> and a big happy birthday to nelson mandela who turns 93 today. the u.n. and mandela's organization are calling on people every to perform 67 minutes of community service in honor of his 67 years in community service. >>> and a stunning ending to last night's world cup final as japan beat the u.s. japan came from behind twice to score two goals each. the win was an emotional one from japan, which is still recovering from the devastating earthquake and tsunami back in march that left over 20,000 dead or missing. was quite the match, i have to say. even riveted me, who is usually a soccer negatory guy. >>> anyway, new
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Jul 18, 2011 1:00pm EDT
ceiling snowdown. the handover in afghanistan today. and more trouble with pakistan. we'll talk to the intelligence chair. still ahead, uk hacking scandal claims another top official at scotland yard. send me your thoughts on twitter. this is "andrea mitchell this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... for greater access to all the things you want, whenever you want them. it's the at&t network... and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement, available only with liberty mutual auto insurance, if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. to learn more, visit us today. responsibility. what's your policy? >>> you're watching live pictures of the rose garden. th
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Jul 23, 2011 9:00am EDT
? >> they call this divine punishment. they say that's for norway being involved in afghanistan and for defaming the prophet mohammed, et cetera, et cetera. there's been so much damage done. who will look at this and try to copycat this? are there other people out there who are going to look at this and say, hey, it worked. we can do this. let's do it again. >> how does this translate in terms of the kind of security we need to take here in the u.s.? >> i can tell you right now that law enforcement in this country is looking very seriously both at the kind of targets that were targeted here, and more importantly, what right wing extremist groups in in country are planning. if you remember just a few years ago, there was this whole had you been loo over monitors the right wing extremists. there are extremists of all dircht flavors. just because you believe in one thing or another doesn't make you less deadly. >> thanks so much for coming in. appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >>> still ahead next hour, how same-sex marriages in new york are creating a bumper crop of wedding business. >>> th
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Jul 25, 2011 5:00pm EDT
in iraq and afghanistan, about a tr trillion there. highly questionable. speaker boehner's plan has two steps in it. totals $1.2 trillion in cuts. has a six to nine month debt ceiling and cuts and another debt ceiling mechanism next year sometime. david, seems like the president is basically saying all i want, get this out of the way before the incomes election. in that interest i'll give you what you want, basically? >> the democrats, without, and republican. s have drawn a line in the sand. problem is, it's inside it's republican tent. it's basically up to the bedroom. saying, we'll given you cuts, and part of reid's plan is $1.2 trillion in defense and non-defense discretionary cuts. we don't know what the cuts will be. may be real cuts in real problems, that the president and other democrats care a lot about. they have basically yielded to republicans on a big conceptual linking, lifting the debt creeling to spending cuts and -- >> two things republicans still want. a dollar for dollar cut in spending to mamp a debt ceiling increase and a trigger mechanism for a balanced budget amen
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Jul 26, 2011 1:00am EDT
to the pentagon budget, and it assumes that the wars are going to eventually end in iraq and afghanistan on a date, right? now, boehner's problem with the reid plan is that it takes the big three right off the table. and, of course, the real republican two-step is to kill the new deal and defeat of president obama and create more opportunities for more tax breaks at the top. neither one of these plans tonight, it must be pointed out that this is somewhat of a capitulation on the parts of the liberals and the democrats -- neither one of these plans has a tax increase. so that is a victory in itself for the republicans, isn't it? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, what do republicans really want? debt reduction or failure of president obama? text "a" for debt reduction, text "b" for failure of president obama to 622639, and you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the program. i thought tonight john boehner looked like a schoolyard bully who wanted it his way and no other way. and i found it interesting that he t
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